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Counterterrorism expert talks about the arrest of the pipe bomb suspect

By Steve Inskeep

Published December 5, 2025 at 3:57 AM CST

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NPR's Steve Inskeep talks to Phil Mudd, who previously served as deputy director of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center and the FBI's National Security Branch, about the arrest of the pipe bomb suspect.

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Steve Inskeep is a host of NPR's Morning Edition, as well as NPR's morning news podcast Up First.