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Former defense secretary on Sec. Driscoll's departure

NPR | By Mallory Yu,

Kathryn Fink, Mary Louise Kelly

Published September 1, 2026 at 3:22 PM CDT

NPR's Mary Louise Kelly speaks with former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta about the resignation of Army Secretary Dan Driscoll and what it says about the health of the military.

Mallory Yu

Mallory Yu is an associate producer for All Things Considered.

Kathryn Fink

Kathryn Fink is a producer with NPR's All Things Considered.

Mary Louise Kelly

Mary Louise Kelly is a host of All Things Considered, NPR's flagship afternoon newsmagazine. She is also the host of NPR's national security podcast, Sources & Methods.